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OK...I get to be first in the Agility threads. My Krieger is just coming on six months, and I've started some agility training with him. So far I'm just working on building his awareness of my body language and learning to follow my lead and watch my directions, so all I've been using is a tunnel and a single jump made out of pvc pipes. I have the side uprights, with the crossbar just sitting on the ground, so he isn't really "jumping", just getting used to going through the uprights.
So, my question: at what age is it ok to start raising that crossbar, even a little. I know in flyball, I won't be putting him over the jumps or have him turning on the box until he's at least a full year old, but I think that's a bit different...in flyball they are running full-out, and it can be hard on their growing joints. For practicing agility in the yard, it doesn't seem like it would be so much impact...he's not running full-tilt, especially because I keep re-directing him and turning him around, so he's not coming straight at the jump from any distance. What I'm doing is having him run beside me, then when I get beside the jump, I turn and direct him back through the uprights. I direct him between the tunnel and the jump, and vary the order, sometimes going from one to the other, sometimes immediately turning him around and back through the same obstacle, in both directions. Does this sound like it's ok? And to go back to the original question...how old should he be before I raise the crossbar even to a few inches? I want to work him to whatever level he can handle, but I don't want to risk any injuries to his growing frame.
By the way, Steve, your boy still impresses me every day...he's turning into a very handsome big man, and his personality and intelligence are really showing. His athletic ability...we-elllll...we'll have to wait until he figures out where his legs are before he can demonstrate that! He still has a bit of a "Bambi on ice" thing goin' on!
Chris
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Excited to see him doing his work! My philosophy is with jumps nothing higher than he can walk over until about 18 months old. I know it really slows down being ready for the shows, but their hips are not finished developing until 24 months old, and too much jumping early on can create problems later. The exception in my mind is, a dog can always jump up and walk down a ramp, it is the front end that breaks down the fastest when they are always coming down on it. So I would start just walking height until about a year, then jumping up to a platform, and sometimes jumping low, and at 18months old start the real jumps at 24 inches.
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hi i just joined this forum and know your post was from awhile ago but i do agility with my older dobie a girl and plan to do it also with my puppy nash i got from steve--he was born in may last year so isn't quite a year old--and steve is very right about jumping and waiting though it is hard to do and so tempting to go on and do it now--and i did start with my girl pretty young because i dind't know any better--but what you described in your post sounds great as far as training and getting that foundation and teaching a puppy to focus on you and watch you is so important--have you done agility before--it is so much fun--with training and age another issue is the weave poles--there is a lot of concern in agility circles now about weave training for puppies because it also puts a lot of stress on joints and muscles because of the way the body has to move and twist especially with a big dog--so now the feeling is that no puppy should really do weaves until they are at least a year and until the growth plates are closed but you can work on things related to weaves like using just two poles to teach entrances and finding the first pole since many dogs goof this part up--the other stressful point of agility for big dogs is the a frame--and apparently going up the frame is very hard on dogs because they hit it with such speed and force--so just be awa re of that and dont over do the frame until your puppy is finished growing--and the down contact of the frame remains a challenge for big dogs always it seems--doing it in a safe way the ensures hitting it without their having to suddenly stop on such a slope--but dobies are great fun in agilty and do really well--i will be interestd to hear how your training is going take care
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drbetsyg wrote:hi i just joined this forum and know your post was from awhile ago but i do agility with my older dobie a girl and plan to do it also with my puppy nash i got from steve--he was born in may last year so isn't quite a year old--and steve is very right about jumping and waiting though it is hard to do and so tempting to go on and do it now--and i did start with my girl pretty young because i dind't know any better--but what you described in your post sounds great as far as training and getting that foundation and teaching a puppy to focus on you and watch you is so important--have you done agility before--it is so much fun--with training and age another issue is the weave poles--there is a lot of concern in agility circles now about weave training for puppies because it also puts a lot of stress on joints and muscles because of the way the body has to move and twist especially with a big dog--so now the feeling is that no puppy should really do weaves until they are at least a year and until the growth plates are closed but you can work on things related to weaves like using just two poles to teach entrances and finding the first pole since many dogs goof this part up--the other stressful point of agility for big dogs is the a frame--and apparently going up the frame is very hard on dogs because they hit it with such speed and force--so just be awa re of that and dont over do the frame until your puppy is finished growing--and the down contact of the frame remains a challenge for big dogs always it seems--doing it in a safe way the ensures hitting it without their having to suddenly stop on such a slope--but dobies are great fun in agilty and do really well--i will be interestd to hear how your training is going take care Betsy so glad to have you here!!! For those who don't know you, Betsy is good for the soul, she makes everyone feel good just by being around.
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